My Letter to Senator Clinton

What do I Want?

Dear Senator Clinton,

First I want to give you a BIG hug and a BIG Congratulations on everything you have done and accomplished so far. I know you did it for me/us your supporters and I appreciate the road you traveled and will continue to travel in your truly amazing and historic journey.

Before I answer your question of what I want you to do, I want you to know that more importantly I want YOU to do what YOU think, feel and believe you should do.  You and only You can decide this. What is in your heart? What is your gut telling you? Then, I think you should discuss it with your family and close friends, let them guide you to your decision.

Now - What do I want?

Well, I'm not yet devastated because I'm still in the "there may be a chance" mode.  But after 15 + months of traveling this journey with you - of holding house parties, maxing out our contributions, sitting on conference calls, making GOTV calls to people all over the country; after traveling to Texas, Pennsylvania and Oregon on your behalf and seeing you, Bill and Chelsea at a number of destinations - well...

I want YOU to be MY President. That is what I want. I believe in you.

I would prefer that you were my President this year, not in 2012 or 2018, but if I had to wait that long I would.

So, if there is a road or path that can somehow lead you to be the President of the United States in 2009, then I would like for you to take it, But, if the ramifications in taking that path are detrimental to you and your future, I don't think it is worth it.

From where I stand, I can only see two paths of possibility, both seem remote; but I'm not a politician and therefore there may be other avenues that I am unaware of.

The first possible path and one that I would guess so many of your supporters are urging you to take is going to the Convention in Denver.  Certainly your male counterparts have done this with far less delegates, but they were not successful in ultimately becoming the President that year. You have every right to do this because you have earned that for sure.

I think your campaign could certainly challenge the delegate math with regards to the RBC decision on Michigan AND I believe you have a strong case regarding the legalities of caucuses in terms of disenfranchising voters.  Certainly in the case of TX, WA, ID, and NE where primaries were held and the outcome was different, you would have a good case. There are many of us willing to testify to the illegalities we witnessed as supporters in some of the caucuses (in my case Houston, Texas).

The fact that you have the most votes ever in history is something to use as your leverage and in your fight.

I question if in your fight over pledged delegates you will wind up alienating more Super Delegates thus defeating your purpose. It will be quite a challenge to get the SD's to overturn another historic candidate in your quest.

I'm not qualified to answer this and I would only urge you to do this if you think you have a good chance of making this work.  But, no matter what happens, you should certainly not release your delegates as they could come in handy down the line should something surface regarding your opponent.

One other thought that a Convention fight might produce is a brokered Presidency (never been done before to my knowledge) where you are President for two of the years (Obama is VP) and Obama is President for two of the years (You are VP). But, this seems like a long-shot at best.

The second path that I think may make more sense, but the negative ramifications could be greater is for you to declare yourself as an Independent Candidate for President. The upside of this is that you don't have to fight the Democratic Party, but you will obviously be ostracized by them and if that matters to you in the future, then this may not be a good path to go down.

From where I stand, you have already been ostracized by them because the DNC leadership clearly have been in the bag for Obama from the beginning and many have tried to force you out of the race since Feb or March. As far as your supporters are concern, many of us no longer care about the Democratic Party.

The upside I see in this path is that you can immediately garner a good amount of support - probably 20-25% or more. This is certainly more than Ross Perot or other Independent candidates have ever gotten and it puts you in the spotlight of competing in the debates against both McCain and Obama, of which I would guess you would prevail.

But, no Independent candidate has ever won the Presidency and it will, most likely ensure that McCain will win the White house until 2012. But, this could set you up well as a candidate in 2012.

The third option is to be the Vice President. I know many of your supporters look down on this because we all see you as the more qualified, experienced candidate - BUT - in some odd way, you owe it to us and yourself to take this position IF you can bargain for leverage in this position. Meaning a VP with a purpose (like Healthcare) or steward of the Economy, or whatever. And in my opinion, that is YOUR right and you have earned it.

The reason I believe this is a better idea than a cabinet position, then Senate Majority Leader or even Governor of New York is because it does put you in the #2 spot - only a heartbeat away from the Presidency.  It is historic and since your journey is historic it would make sense that you should take this and become the first woman Vice President of the United States. I would be fine with this.  I am one of your ardent supporters that will not vote for Obama and support McCain (if you are not the nominee) - BUT - I would never vote against YOU and therefore if you are on the ticket with Obama, I would support it.

The other reason this option may be the best one is that it is the path of least resistance. You will be hailed as a uniter and if Obama loses the nomination, it will not be your fault. You will be set up to run again in 2012. If Obama is successful, than you're in the White house - can run in 2018 if you want and you never know what might happen in those years.

Even in accepting this position, I would not release your delegates until after the convention.

I would certainly urge you and want you to do one of these options.

Taking a cabinet position, or a higher level Senate position, or running for Gov. of NY is not part of the dream or journey we have all been working for, so these ideas do not appeal to me personally, but I would respect your decision if that is what you want.

I just want you to know, Hillary that I adore you as so many of your supporters do. I know we weren't supposed to idolize you like a Movie Star, but as the song says "I've grown accustomed to your face". After 15 + months - I don't want to let you go; I don't want to let the dream die.  I will be in Denver, ready to storm that convention floor if you want me to. But, in the end, I will always respect your final decision.



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Re: My Letter to Senator Clinton (2.00 / 2)

It's all about Hillary, remember that kids! Nothing else matters in the whole wide universe except her career.


by Aris Katsaris on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:29:40 PM EST

Honest, non aggressive question - - (2.00 / 3)

if you don't like Hillary, or the diarist, or what the diary says, why do you feel the need to snark all over her/him?  Your guy won.  Just let it go.  Have some grace in victory.


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:33:29 PM EST
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Re: Honest, non aggressive answer (2.00 / 1)

Because it's November that matters, and I believe some people (including Clinton herself) are more interested in Clinton's career than for a Democratic victory in November.

That's the reason, and the whole of my reason. I wish I believed otherwise.


by Aris Katsaris on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:36:28 PM EST
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Again, honest, non aggressive question (2.00 / 1)

do you think snark and attacks and mockery are effective ways to convince them to do otherwise?  to win over folks you need?
I expressed honest emotion below, and look at the reaction.  Not a good way to win folks over, bud.
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:40:27 PM EST
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Re: Again, honest, non aggressive question (2.00 / 1)

We don't need folks like you. You can take your concern troll act to a freeper site.

I assume the BUSH-APPOINTED fed (2.00 / 1)

prosecutor is going to have some real interesting negotiations with Tony, starting now.
What will he say to stay out of jail?
Remember what they did to Don Seigelman - - Not good, not good at all.

John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:35:14 PM EST


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:44:26 PM EST
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Re: Again, honest, non aggressive question (2.00 / 1)

Noot good. Not good at all.


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:45:09 PM EST
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Another honest, non aggressive question (2.00 / 3)

who elected you the gatekeeper on this site, telling people when and where to go?
And is "get out of here" your idea of working for unity?
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:49:47 PM EST
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Re: Another honest, non aggressive question (2.00 / 1)

Unity? You are a concern troll.

I could care less what you think.


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:30:14 PM EST
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Re: Honest, non aggressive answer (2.00 / 2)

And you're advancing Obama's cause in November by ripping Clinton and her supporters?


John McCain: Healthcare for Kids? In America? No way
by bosdcla14 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:00:58 PM EST
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Re: Honest, non aggressive answer (none / 0)

Mainly I was relieving frustration I think. But you're of course right that it may be counterproductive.


by Aris Katsaris on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:03:55 PM EST
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Relieving frustration.... (none / 0)

Relieve all you want.
Then press "delete" key.
by susie on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:48:07 AM EST
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Re: My Letter to Senator Clinton (2.00 / 2)

That's actually true, Aris.  Hillary has the GE outcome in her hands.  If she expresses that we should vote against Obama, a lot of us will do so.  

We see her as the true embodiment of Democratic principles, humanity, and egalatarianism.  As selfish as people make her out to be, her prime negotiating concerns are for health care (because she cares about us more than herself) and alleviation for African Americans who are taking heat for supporting her.  Note, how the latter is distinct from Hillary wanting to Obama to patch up her standing in the AA community.  Her priority is the supporters she's had in that community who have been taking heat from other AA's.  

To her supporters, this humanity and compassion is the diametric opposite of Mr. "Please don't count those votes" Obama.  


Lifelong Democrat, civil rights advocate, former volunteer for Dem candidates. Now Independent.
by BPK80 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:57:04 PM EST
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How about she do the honorable thing (none / 0)

and endorse the nominee.


by parahammer on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:30:21 PM EST

JFK, Jr.'s death. (1.00 / 0)

That's the last time I was this upset about what's happened to a public figure I respect.


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:31:15 PM EST

you're right - this is just as bad (none / 0)


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:32:44 PM EST
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Re: you're right - this is just as bad (1.00 / 2)

As bad as the Lincoln assassination.


by parahammer on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:33:37 PM EST
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Mocking others' anguish is so admirable. (1.00 / 0)

What big, strong people you are.


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:37:24 PM EST
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Re: Mocking others' anguish is so admirable. (2.00 / 1)

Victim much.


by parahammer on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:38:33 PM EST
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Not victim at all. (2.00 / 1)

Just wondering why you feel the need to mock someone's expression of anguish and disappointment.  It seems so cold to me, and so counter productive, so I ask.


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:43:27 PM EST
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How dare you (none / 0)

Hillary is live and well.

JKF Jr is scattered at sea.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:41:40 PM EST
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And I'm saying that this affected me (2.00 / 2)

similarly - - please give me the parameters of my allowable emotion range, and in the future I'll comply, Mr. Rodgers.


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:44:49 PM EST
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the drama is just as bad (none / 0)

Lincoln was watching "Our American Cousin"

we're watching "Antonio Salieri"


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:38:54 PM EST
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I'm talking about how I feel - - (1.00 / 0)

or are there parameters of emotion that require your permission?
I thought feelings are individual, and each human is entitled to have them.
I so glad we can share on this community.
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:36:13 PM EST
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It' like Hillary comparing MI/FL to slavery (2.00 / 3)

complete disrespect for the underlying tragedy.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:40:32 PM EST
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Re: I'm talking about how I feel - - (1.00 / 2)

You've proven yourself to be a concern troll of the worst kind.

I assume the BUSH-APPOINTED fed (2.00 / 1)

prosecutor is going to have some real interesting negotiations with Tony, starting now.
What will he say to stay out of jail?
Remember what they did to Don Seigelman - - Not good, not good at all.

John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:35:14 PM EST  


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:41:19 PM EST
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Spaceman, are you stalking me (1.00 / 0)

or spamming me with the same comment?  Both are impermissible.  Bye.


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:51:42 PM EST
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Re: Spaceman, are you stalking me (2.00 / 3)

spiff does each quite often


by zerosumgame on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:00:26 PM EST
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Re: My Letter to Senator Clinton (2.00 / 2)

Hillary really can't make arguments about caucuses being unfair. Not now. She can argue for next time around. But she didn't seem to have a problem with caucuses before she lost most of them, she shouldn't have a problem now.

And Hillary running as an independent will certainly give the presidency to John McCain. It's not even a question.


by pomology on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:33:08 PM EST

Caucusing is Easy! (1.00 / 3)


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changiness
by lizardbox on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:37:04 PM EST
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Re: Caucusing is Easy! (none / 0)

I know, right?

I'd totally forgotten about that ad.


by pomology on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:41:23 PM EST
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Re: Caucusing is Easy! (2.00 / 1)

WTF was the HR for?  Uprated


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:26:41 PM EST
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Thank you, thank you! (2.00 / 1)

Let 'em. They're just bored.


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changiness
by lizardbox on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 11:02:55 PM EST
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Re: My Letter to Senator Clinton (none / 0)

I guess asking her to do the right thing and endorse the nominee that beat her fair and square is out of the question for you people.

Freaking deadenders, try not to take the party, the country and the world down with your foolishness.


If you are not voting Obama, please let me know so I can replace your sorry ass with another new voter.
by Darknesse on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:34:58 PM EST

I had not idea today is Valentine's Day?? (none / 0)


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:35:39 PM EST

Clinton to concede on Fri. (ABC News) (2.00 / 3)

ABC News is breaking the story:

http://abcnews.go.com/

I wonder if they'll have to lock McAuliffe in a safe location to keep him from retracting this.


The future is unwritten
by Strummerson on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:36:12 PM EST

Re: Clinton to concede on Fri. (ABC News) (2.00 / 2)

holy shitballs.


by alyssa chaos on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:40:36 PM EST
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mojo for shitballs (2.00 / 1)


by JJE on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:40:44 PM EST
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Friday news dump (1.50 / 2)

anyone who has ever seen "The West Wing" knows about the Friday news dump.

Leave it to clinton.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:44:27 PM EST
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Notice how she leaked this to ABC News (none / 0)

Thanks George!


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:46:08 PM EST
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Re: My Letter to Senator Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Certainly in the case of TX, WA, ID, and NE where primaries were held and the outcome was different, you would have a good case. There are many of us willing to testify to the illegalities we witnessed as supporters in some of the caucuses (in my case Houston, Texas).

THIS is the reason why some Obama supporters get upset. It's not gloating or being sore winners. It's these smears offered up without a zilch of evidence to back them up.

Should we just shut up in the name of unity?

How is this helpful?

What could of been a great diary is just another lame hit piece.


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:37:43 PM EST

Re: My Letter to Senator Clinton (2.00 / 3)

well this is what i wrote her, now its not exact cause I did it yesterday and forgot word for word,

here it is:

Dont take this to Denver. I am a die hard Clinton supporter and have been with you since the beginnning but I think taking it to Denver would damage your political career and the party.

I told her:

I am your supporter, meaning I can not tell you how to proceed. It is your choice alone but i will support whichever decision you choose and continue to support you past this primary.

I think its best if you keep up your work in the senate, really have a strong effect on policy, and continue to work on behalf of your constituents. If you go to the convention, it would ruin your re-election and thus end your career.

It is up to you.
signed a Loyal Supporter.


by alyssa chaos on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:38:18 PM EST

Re: My Letter to Senator Clinton (2.00 / 1)

It is truly astonishing that someone out there actually believes that the DNC was in the tank for Obama from the start. When Clinton had 150 superdelegates months before the first vote was cast. When EVERYONE bought into her 'inevitability' claim. When she had a popular former president stumping for her. When she had 90% of the DNC fund raising establishment at her beck and call.

Need I go on?

Calling foul now is an insult to Obama, an insult to Clinton, and an insult to the voters who cast their ballots in good faith in caucuses and primaries around the country.


by EvilAsh on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:45:36 PM EST

Re: My Letter to Senator Clinton (2.00 / 4)

Nikkid,

It's obvious that your really trying to think this through.  I know that you don't know me from Adam, (or Eve), but I wanted to give you some well deserved Kudos for trying to come to grips with your feelings, with respect to where this race has ended up.

I know this is a tough time for you.  I appreciate an honest diary, even though I don't agree with some of your arguments.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:59:23 PM EST

Re: My Letter to Senator Clinton (none / 0)

Thank You.


by nikkid on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:50:16 PM EST
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Oxymoron. (none / 0)

I am one of your ardent supporters that will not vote for Obama and support McCain

Anyone who truly supports Hillary Clinton would not support someone who represents everything she has fought for for her entire adult life.

To do so goes much further than 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'....it's more like cutting off your head to spite your neck. It not only 'punishes' Obama...it punishes Hillary as well.


by Kysen on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:50:31 PM EST

Re: Oxymoron. (none / 0)

Gah! Typos....

"everything she has fought AGAINST for her entire adult life"...

(note to self: Preview is your friend)


by Kysen on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:52:01 PM EST
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Re: Oxymoron. (2.00 / 1)

False.  Some of us are less forgiving of the disrespect to Hillary than she herself is.  


Lifelong Democrat, civil rights advocate, former volunteer for Dem candidates. Now Independent.
by BPK80 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:57:59 PM EST
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Re: Oxymoron. (none / 0)

So don't vote for President.
Write in her name.
Do anything other than vote for the man that represents what she has spent a lifetime fighting against.

I can't say that I'd agree with sitting out or writing in another name...but, I could understand it.

Voting for McCain I cannot understand.
It fails the logic test.

How are you honoring her by dishonoring all that she has fought for?


by Kysen on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:32:45 PM EST
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Re: Oxymoron. (2.00 / 2)

Of course not!

Geez.

We're not evil because we support Hillary.  Please understand that with all that's happened this is a complex decision.  I doubt that I'll be casting a spite vote in November.  

But right now, I am angry at the system, at the unnecessary hijacking of 4 delegates from Michigan, at the "this race is over" slant in the media since Februrary when Hillary ended up winning the popular vote.  


Lifelong Democrat, civil rights advocate, former volunteer for Dem candidates. Now Independent.
by BPK80 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:40:55 PM EST
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Re: Oxymoron. (none / 0)

I know you are not evil.
If you were I'd have a real hard time closing my eyes at night....my wife is a Hillary Supporter!!  ;)

That is why I say I can understand sitting out, or writing in Hillary's name. I know how disappointed my wife is and I have told her I would support her in either of those decisions. Voting for McCain, however, is a whole nother thing.

That is why I pointed out that the above comment was an oxymoron. A truly ardent supporter of Clinton would not support McCain...be it out of spite or otherwise. To do so goes against all that Clinton stands for and has fought for.

So, yeah, while I TOTALLY get the anger, the disappointment, the sadness.....I flat cannot swallow the decision to vote for McCain. THAT is what I speak out against.

Peace.


by Kysen on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:53:40 PM EST
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Re: Oxymoron. (2.00 / 1)

Thank you for the sincere and substantive response.  One option that has crossed my mind is voting for Obama but switching my Dem. registration to Independent as a way to both avoid the horrible GOP policies of McCain (which will survive long past my outrage at the RBC hijacking) and yet to express my disapproval with the party elders themselves.  

But there's no rush to decide.  We don't even know who the veeps are or what other kind of information will come out regarding Hillary's intentions, etc.


Lifelong Democrat, civil rights advocate, former volunteer for Dem candidates. Now Independent.
by BPK80 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 04:23:41 AM EST
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No (none / 0)

you'd be evil for supporting McCain, who wants to torpedo anything Hillary has fought for or will fight for.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 12:10:18 AM EST
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Re: No (2.00 / 1)

Thank you for your "concern," but I'm well equipped to determine what I would consider "evil" for myself.  


Lifelong Democrat, civil rights advocate, former volunteer for Dem candidates. Now Independent.
by BPK80 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 04:21:32 AM EST
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