Biggest Headache for LATINO Activists

As some of you know, I am a strong pro-Clinton supporter.

However, I am ready to support Senator Obama in November if he is indeed the nominee. I am confident that he will be a great President given the opportunity.

Let me now update you on the state of some Latino political activists. (Although we are technically suppose to be Non-Partisan, its no secret that these groups are Democratic leaning in political views.)

Just came off a conference call with over 270 Latino leaders, activists, local & county elected officials representing 29 states. Many of the participants are also members of  organizations like NALEO, NCLR which is the Largest Latino Civil Rights Org in America, HBLA(Hispanics Business Leaders of America),LEAP, VIVA Latino Voter Mobilization, etc.

There was a strong presence of leaders from states like NM,CA,CO,MO,FL,NJ,NY,TX,PA,NV,OH,VA,MD,A Z.

Main Agenda: It is evident that Senator Barack Obama will very likely be the Democratic Nominee for President.
With that being the case, what unified action can we take to ensure the highest participation of Latino voters

But there is one FACT facing Latino activists this November.
( Base on multiple pollings & surveys completed by different Latino orgs in the last 60 days)

That fact is:

A) GOP John McCain is now poised to be the first Republican Presidential Candidate to ever win the Latino vote for President.

(multiple surveys show McCain polling at a range of 50% to as high as 58% among registered Latino voters against Obama who is ranging between 40% to 49% .)

B) Obama Latino campaign surrogates have repeatedly emphasizedto Latino politicians & activists, that Sen. Obama will need anywhere from 67% to 70% of Latino voters in the General Election in order to offset the expected drop of support from White voters in the General election.

Note: Kerry got 53% of Latino votes
      Gore got  62% of Latino votes
      B.Clinton got 72% of Latino votes

( CNN official 2004,2000,1996 national exit polls )

Actions Needed:

Heavy Latino Mobilization of voters across the country.

Target: Heavy emphasis on New 1st time voters, Latino Senior Citizens, & young Latino voters.

Solutions: In all past National & Statewide elections, VOTER MOBILIZATION was & has always been the answer for latino voters. Education of New Voters & assistance in transporting voters on election day.

But their is a Unique Problem facing Latinos in 2008 :

Various polling estimates have it at 33% to 46% of Latino democrats & latino leaning democrats will Not support Obama in the fall. ( This is why GOP McCain is poised to win the Latino vote for the first time )

Among this group of latino democrats : it is pretty much accepted that they are SPLIT between two groups.

Group A - Plans to Stay Home on election day
Group B - Plans to Vote for McCain in November

Here's the BIG HEADACHE that Latino activists across America right now. This will be the heavy discussion in the next two months.

The dilemma is:

If We Latinos go all out & Mobilize, convince, push,call, force, pressure Latino voters to come out on November 4th & exercise their priviledge & right to Vote.

One MAJOR UNINTENDED consquence is what SCARES & CONCERNS democratic latino activists.

We may unintentionally Add to the Damage on Obama by forcing these Latinos who were planning to Stay at Home, to actually Vote on election day & end up voting for John McCain.

Remember, the 'Stay at home" voters are at 15%-20% of All latino voters.Since they are democrats, these people have voted for Kerry, Gore & Bill Clinton in the past.

But of course, this group has no plans whatsoever in supporting Obama.

Will we be adding injury to our nominee by forcing hundreds of thousands of these voters to the polling booth just to vote for McCain anyway???

The argument of some on the call is these people will Definitely vote for the Democratic Down Ticket & thus, it is worth reaching out to them.

But others argue that they would rather have these large number of people just stay home rather than vote for McCain

This discussion will continue in the next two months.

Either way, speaking as a neutral observer.

So many Latino activists Do Not See how Obama can possibly win in November. They will support him. But his problem with Whites & Latino voters is real & not make believe.

Many Latino politicians "privately" ridiculed & called Donna Brazile's logic as "Pure Stupity".

No Democrat in 2008 or 2012 can win the white house without solid support from Latinos & Working Class whites. Its impossible.



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Re: Biggest Headache for LATINO Activists (none / 0)

Brazile said "just" ...


by cherrygarcia on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:57:31 PM EST

Re: Biggest Headache for LATINO Activists (2.00 / 1)

I'm sorry, but just when the hell were we relying "just" on whites and latinos?  Brazile's point was very clear: the new Democratic Party exists for Barack Obama's coalition, and everyone else is in the back of the line.


No candidacy is more important than the right to vote.
by hornplayer on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:59:58 PM EST
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People like Brazile don't mind losing in the GE (none / 0)

After all, they're used to it.  They would rather control the party if they had to make a choice because their powers, influence, and fiefdoms aren't diluted that way.


by lombard on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:06:11 PM EST
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Re: Biggest Headache for LATINO Activists (none / 0)

Talk about grasping at straws.


by cherrygarcia on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:10:33 PM EST
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Re: Biggest Headache for LATINO Activists (none / 0)

Well, Barack, Mr. Uniter, can't say you have not been warned. The ball is now firmly in your court. Show us those magical uniting skills your supporters claim you possess above and beyond anyone else.

My one and only piece of advice is to keep the serially incompetent Donna Brazille far away from you or anything  to do with Democratic party politics. She has all the political instincts of a bull in a china shop.


by superetendar on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:07:48 PM EST

Well south Texas always votes Democratic (none / 0)

no matter who is on the ticket.

Heck, sometimes even dead people vote, too.

We are just that loyal.


"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan
by pinche tejano on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:08:01 PM EST

tell your activists (none / 0)

To stop playing themselves.

The Republicans hate them just as much as they hate Blacks.

Alot of minority groups in America think that the Republicans are ok because although they hate them, they hate blacks and muslims more.

I personally find it shameful that any latino would ever vote for McCain.

Figure out why that exists, and attack it there.

Fighting republicans is easy, as long as you have the cojones (i know a little spanish :P   )

As the son of an imigrant family, I have to say I almost tear up everytime I see this video.  The nationalism of most imigrants I know would not have them in the streets singing about an American candidate.


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Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254

by GeorgeP922 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:08:16 PM EST

McCain brought up immigration reform (none / 0)

and disadvantaged Americans (blacks, working class whites) compete with immigrants for the same jobs (the "they do the jobs Americans won't do" sticks in their craw.)

McCain - who is from Arizona - has been one of the few Repubs to discuss immigration reform in a sane manner.

And Latinos voted for Bush in higher numbers than we'd like to admit.


by catfish1 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:58:37 PM EST
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Re: tell your activists (none / 0)

NO NO please not the corny mariachi song! anything bbut that!!

alright, alright. Ill say uncle and consider voting Obama.


--++++Stay Gold, Ponyboy!++++--
by amde on Thu May 08, 2008 at 02:44:13 PM EST
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Re: tell your activists (none / 0)

Sorry but this is what carries Latino's. ;)

And last but not least:

Enjoy.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 04:23:03 PM EST
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Re: Biggest Headache for LATINO Activists (none / 0)

Why does Barack Obama have a "problem" with Latinos? What has he done to Latinos that would make them want to vote for McCain?


by dmc2 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:31:54 PM EST

In labor unions (none / 0)

the black caucus and latino caucus often compete for the same positions. An ethnic media poll shows that for more recent immigrants, ethnicities distrusted each other more than they distrusted assimilated Americans.

Sad, but true.

In short - I'm not saying I encourage this, but it exists: a black mayor in a place like Oakland, who just recently defeated a Latino mayor, set off fears among Latino groups that the mayor would give more jobs to blacks than to Latinos.

Obama's been able to get a lot of Latino support among my friends in San Francisco - but I know from my friendship with them that black/brown tension flares up from time to time in other contexts.


by catfish1 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:55:48 PM EST
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Re: Biggest Headache for LATINO Activists (none / 0)

It's not what he's done to Latinos, it's what he hasn't done. His Latino outreach has been weak. It's very apparent in places with high Latino populations. On the other hand, Latinos view Clinton as someone who's been reaching out to them and fighting for them for decades. (And McCain has that tough-old-guy-war-hero attraction, he's from a border state with high Latino population, and he's not as scary about immigration as his fellow Republicans.)


by LakersFan on Thu May 08, 2008 at 03:42:25 PM EST
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Re: Biggest Headache for LATINO Activists (none / 0)

You're answer lies within your question.

What has he done?


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 04:25:35 PM EST
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the Democratic coalition (2.00 / 1)

must include the strong and vibrant participation of Latinos as stakeholders in the party at the highest positions of leadership, including the White House and our Governors mansions and the Congress.

I attended the well-attended Latino Caucus at the CA State Democratic party convention in San Jose and that was clear.

Luis Valdes made an empassioned speech in support of Obama but praising Clinton as well. His point was that we have to rally together behind a winner.

There are pragmatic reasons for Latino activists to rally behind Barack Obama, and many in Calfornia already have, especially in our State Legislative caucus. There are also very real pragmatic reasons for the Obama campaign to reach out to Latino voters and not simply "symbolically" but as stakeholders in our party and as power brokers in the campaign.

The core thing I'd like to convey to Obama supporters and Democrats reading MyDD is that Democratic issues are Latino issues and black issues and white issues.

They are the things we all care about.  To talk simply about immigration or ICE raids, though these are important,is to miss the point that we all care about issues like health care and access to education and solving the huge environmental and energy challenges we face. Not to mention the war in Iraq, where Latinos are over-represented in our armed forces.

However, the most important thing is that Latino leaders be true stakeholders and partners at the very highest level of our national and state party. Pandering and vote getting is not enough. People want to see true power-sharing...and a fully vested seat at the table at the BEGINNING of the process.

There is a chance, as the Obama campaign begins its drive to seal the nomination of our party to work to bring together the support that some Latino leaders gave to Clinton around our  nominee...that should be done with an offer of power sharing and outreach.

Coalitions only work insofar as the leaders of the members of the coalitions are stakeholders with a real say in things.

This is an opportunity, right now.

Feel free to email me at kidoakland"at"comcast"dot"net


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by kid oakland on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:32:06 PM EST

Can't write off asians either (none / 0)

or native americans.


by catfish1 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:52:32 PM EST

Re: Biggest Headache for LATINO Activists (2.00 / 1)

I am looking forward to Obama's concession speech. If you think latino voters are robots and are going to fall in line behind Obama, you don't know shit about politics. This going to get ugly and there won't be unity. Unlike Reagan or Bush, McCain doesnt have that "asshole" personality so the hate isnt there. Obama keeps saying we need change...but how? His bumper sticker campaign is going to hit a big fuck up in November


by bsavage on Thu May 08, 2008 at 02:40:38 PM EST

Richardson for VP! [NT] (none / 0)


by kraant on Thu May 08, 2008 at 03:04:53 PM EST
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Re: Richardson for VP! [NT] (none / 0)

I'm no Obama suporter but some things are obvious:
Tim Kaine: VP
Bill Richardson: Secretary of State

Richardson's endorsement was pitiful and at the wrong time considering the NM primary had already happened a month before his endorsement.


by bsavage on Thu May 08, 2008 at 03:22:55 PM EST
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Re: Biggest Headache for LATINO Activists (2.00 / 1)

yeah there is cause for concern that many who have been energized this primary who are likely first time voters, will feel bitter to the extent that because their candidate is not on the list that they should just stay home. Now this is a MAJOR problem in the hispanic community because we tend to have lower voter turnout no matter what, lower registration numbers, and all around less participation. (its a problem with any minority)

The task at hand is to keep voters interested and included, otherwise we will see a repeat of past election cycles. Less voter turnout seems imminent right now as Hispanics/latinos have overwhelmingly supported Clinton, and she will not likely be on the ticket. It is Baracks mission to include these voters that came out so much in support of Clinton. So far, he just isn't cutting it, obviously he needs to step up his game. Maybe make a few appearance in the southwest (he dissed alot of major communities in texas and elsewhere)

It seems very unlikely for him to win the presidency with just 1/3 of the Hispanic/Latino vote. If hes just banking on the fact that H/L go democrat anyways he'll be making the same mistake Kerry and Gore did...and they didnt get elected.


--++++Stay Gold, Ponyboy!++++--
by amde on Thu May 08, 2008 at 02:55:39 PM EST


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